. >> what about those people who say let the fiscal cliff happen? go over the cliff and see what happens and what political advantage we can gain from that? >> i can't imagine -- i can't imagine when it finally gets down to it that rational people would let that happen. i mean, to throw the country into a recession, which you almost would certainly have. to have these draco nian cuts. you would have cuts in the defense department, charlie, for example. they can't cut programs so they have to cut maintenance. they have to cut -- you know, you can't buy gas for the airplanes. that sort of thing. surely, surely we have not sent people to washington who would be willing to let that sort of thing happen. i can't imagine that it will happen in the end. >> bob schieffer, thank you very much. >>> as we mentioned, bob will interview treasury secretary geithner, congressman mike rogers and dianne feinstein sund sunday. >>> to identify one of the winners who will split a record $588 million jackpot. the other winning ticket sold in arizona might be in the hand